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Sex work is dangerous because…

Yesterday, Laurie Penny published an article in the New Statesman. It was entitled “This strange neo-Victorian desire to save prostitutes and porn actresses”. As you can probably imagine, that caught my attention. However, it is the sub heading that is currently being argued on Twitter and elsewhere.

Sex work isn’t stigmatised because it is dangerous. Sex work is dangerous because it is stigmatised.

That (of course) set off the alarms in the underground Crouch End lair of Julie Bindel. Her response:

Awful, libertarian, patronising crap. Hope the growing group of prostitution survivors knocks this down.

Now, putting aside the fact that you really don’t want to get me started on the sudden (and almost magical) influx of “prostitution survivors” who will attest to the fact that everything Julie and her ilk say is not only Gospel, but an understatement. I do find most of what she says about the sex industry to be awful, totalitarian crap which I hope the growing group of outspoken sex workers will knock down, but hey ho…

I don’t see the problem with Laurie Penny’s article. The reason I don’t have a problem with it is that she has obviously been listening and paying attention to sex workers and who better to tell people what we need, than us? Oh yeah, I forgot… Radical feminists. Because of course, we should be denied our autonomy if what we profess to want doesn’t tally with what they have decided we should want.

Along comes an American chap who agrees totally with Julie Bindel, thinks that Laurie Penny has lost her mind and tweets the following:

So wrong. Sex work is dangerous because its often not a choice. Look at these stories please

Now, what I want to know is this:

A sex worker is a sex worker. Regardless of which part of this extremely varied industry he or she works. The fact is that bad people who want to do bad things to others without getting caught know that sex workers are seen as sub-human by many and street workers especially may be missed by few. That’s what makes it dangerous. The fact that those people feel that they have no rights and are seen as disposable. Whether they have chosen sex work or felt compelled to do it through lack of choice isn’t what causes the danger. It’s society’s attitude to them.

And while we’re on the subject of people who turn to sex work out of desperation.

Where is the logic in thinking that eradicating prostitution will help them?

I can assure you that if you wander up to a street worker and say “Ah, you are destitute and have been forced to sell your body on a street corner to survive, so I’ve done you a favour, I’ve completely done away with prostitution. You don’t need to do it any more. No, honestly, no need to thank me. It was the right thing to do”. He or she will probably take a moment to consider the implications of what you have just said and then punch you really really hard.

Those of you who think that getting rid of the sex industry is a wonderful idea. Just think about that for a moment. Forget the people you consider privileged and not representative and concentrate on those for whom prostitution is the only option. If you take it away, what exactly do they have left?

Oh and as for the chap I quoted earlier. He is a photographer who takes pictures of deprived areas. I’m sure that his wading in has nothing whatsoever to do with wanting to sell his pictures. Oh no. I’m sure that Mr “I used to work on Wall Street, but now I’m an artist” has purely altruistic intentions.

Why men use prostitutes

The answer (that is) according to Julie Bindel. Before I start can I just say that I don’t like the word “use” in that context. Visit is much better, but of course ‘visit’ doesn’t have the nasty connotations that ‘use’ does, so we won’t see Julie using it anytime soon.

Julie wrote another column for the Guardian yesterday. The title of which is exactly the same as the title of this blog. Unfortunately, I missed the deadline for comments, so I shall hold forth at you lot instead. 🙂

The subject of Julie’s latest article is a report on why men visit prostitutes. Although it has been undertaken by a group which includes members who believe that the only safe choice for women is lesbianism, I’m sure it isn’t at all biased (Where’s that SarcMark when I need it?).

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I turn my back for 5 minutes…

Ok, it was about 24 hours. Just enough time to do 2 outcalls on opposites sides of Scotland (Yay for Superfloozy 🙂 ), but that’s hardly the point is it now?

Everything was fine yesterday afternoon and then I return home to this!

Harman challenges Arnold Schwarzenegger to shut down prostitute site PunterNet

WHAT??!!!!  Why??  So I read on and found that reason is:

The Equalities Minister condemned PunterNet, a site which allows men to compare and rate prostitutes, as “the ultimate commodification of women”.

Ok, let’s start with that:

PunterNet allows people (yes, men and women) to review prostitutes. Yes, we in the industry see it as a good thing. It helps people to choose the right girl for them. People are purchasing a service. Then they pop over to Punternet and let other folks know whether they got received a good service or not and whether it was value for money. They rate the service they got, not the girl per se. Much the same as you would pop over to a site and rate a Plumber or a Builder, but you won’t see Ms Harperson whinging about that in a hurry.

Outlining her plans to ban sex with women under the control of pimps, Ms Harman declared: “prostitution is not work. It’s exploitation of women by men.”

Read that very carefully. The Harpy Ms Harperson is not against exploitation of women, she against prostitution. Why doesn’t she just come out and say that? What about female clients? Do they not exist? Or do they not exploit? What about male prostitutes?  Oh deary me, have I poked a ickle hole in her argument?

Anyway, to continue, I’ll take this next quote one piece at a time:

Ms Harman said: There is now a website …

Woah! Great job Sherlock! It’s only been around since 1999!!

…where pimps put women on sale for sex and then men who’ve had sex with them put their comments on line

Pimps? If a pimp posted on there, well, let’s just say they would find him and show him the error of his ways…

Women for sale eh? Well as this was the London page that was being referred to I’ll have a Burlesque Honey and an Emily Jones  to go please. 🙂 But, first you’ll need to explain to them that “their pimps” have put them “on sale”. Go on, I double dare you Harriet! Stand really close to either of those girls, or any other on that page and say that to them. That’s the problem though isn’t it. We have no voice. Equality my lily white arse! Do you have any idea how frustrating it is to be shouted down by man-hating radical feminists at every turn?

Anyway, back to the point at hand:

It is the ultimate commodification of women and puts women at risk. It is truly degrading.

Firstly,  just for my own gratification: Commodification? Making up new words are we?

No it isn’t commoditisation, we provide a service and we choose to advertise that service on PunterNet.

Risk? The only one putting women at risk here is Harriet bloody Harman!!

Degrading? Why is it? Because you (Harriet) would find it degrading to have sex for money? Well you’d better not do it then eh? I, on the other hand, do not find it degrading at all. So don’t pass your feelings, morals and ideals off as mine. Ok?

Think on this:

In the early 20th century, when women asked to be heard, they were patted on the head and told that they didn’t really know what they wanted. How could they? They were only women after all.

In the early 21st century, when independent, self employed women ask to be heard, you pat us on the head and tell us that we don’t really know what we want. How can we? We are only prostitutes after all.

You (Harriet, Julie et al) are a disgrace to the women’s movement.

Yours independently, un-pimped, un-coerced and so far (despite you) legally.

Amanda

 

Quote of the day:
The only way to be truly misogynistic is to be a woman. – Randy K. Milholland

I’ve had fabulous news!!

I think therefore I am not. 🙂

I do not exist!

Having sat around, glumly contemplating the fact that I am not really here, sitting around, glumly contemplating the fact that I am not here (repeat ad beetlejuiceinfinitum). I have decided to look on the bright side. If I’m not here, I do not have to pay bills etc.

What led me to believe that I do not exist? Julie Bindel of course. Apparently, she does not believe in ‘the happy hooker’. Now, having trawled the internet and not once discovered Ms Bindel retracting a statement, I must conclude that she is never wrong. Therefore I am not here and you are not reading this.

The downside to this is that sooner or later new people will move into my house. I have decided to look on the bright side of that as well.  I’ve always had a soft spot for Michael Keaton

Betelgeuse… Betelgeuse… Betelgeuse…

Yours in non-existence

Amanda xx

Quote of the Day:
The happiest people don’t necessarily have the best of everything. They just make the best of everything.
–Anonymous

Feminists & Prostitution… A Challenge:

Thanks to a thread on Punternet Forums, I have been reading some bullshit fascinating reports on prostitution. These reports all have something in common. If you look up the authors, you will inevitably find out that they are not just feminists, but activistic feminists of the extreme variety. The kind of feminists who seem to be irresistibly drawn to working for such organisations as Rape Crisis. A few minutes of digging around on the internet for articles by said feminists leads one to wonder whether they work there purely based on the urge to use the phrase “Male violence against women” as often as possible.

Jan Macleod says in this article

PROSTITUTION is referred to as the oldest profession and is said to be inevitable because it’s always been here. That’s what people said about slavery.

Surely we want a Scotland where people have the right to live in safety and respect – how can we achieve that if we are prepared to tolerate women being used and abused in prostitution?

Most women enter prostitution because of lack of choice. It is the men buying sex who are exercising free choice.

Slavery? Used and abused? Lack of choice?

I will say here and now though, that I have more time for the opinions of Margo MacDonald, who is quoted further down in the same article. At least she has the sense to realise that the more laws are brought in to end prostitution, the more it will be driven underground. The further underground it goes, the more dangerous it becomes.

Another article from the same newspaper is imaginatively titled “Sex Industry in Scotland: Inside the deluded minds of  the punters”

Nice eh?

This piece starts with the line:

“ALMOST half the punters who use prostitutes in Scotland are so deluded that they believe the women actually enjoy having sex with them.”

Now tell me, what exactly is wrong with that? It’s not delusion. It’s fact!  We do enjoy it. On some occasions more than others, but that really isn’t the issue.

I wouldn’t mind if the people churning out these articles and reports and campaigning their dungaree clad arses off, were open minded, but these women include the likes of Julie Bindel.

In case you haven’t come across the lovely Ms Bindel, she is the kind of feminist who believes that ALL women should be saved from “daily penetration”.

I’m sure that Ms Bindel would read my website and promptly announce that I am deluded, a victim of male abuse and that I was probably an abused or neglected child. She would be entirely wrong.

I, on the other hand read this article and feel that I know all I ever wish to know about our Julie. I’ll give you a couple of quotes from that one, just in case you can’t be arsed to read it.

“In the late 70s a group of lesbians in Leeds, known as revolutionary feminists (RFs), made a controversial move that resonated loudly for me and many other women. They began calling for all feminists to embrace lesbianism. Appealing to their heterosexual sisters to get rid of men “from your beds and your heads””

“all feminists can and should be lesbians. Our definition of a political lesbian is a woman-identified woman who does not fuck men. It does not mean compulsory sexual activity with women.”

“ “We think serious feminists have no choice but to abandon heterosexuality,” it reads. “Only in the system of oppression that is male supremacy does the oppressor actually invade and colonise the interior of the body of the oppressed.” It also asserted that penetration “is more than a symbol, its function and effect is the punishment and control of women””

“For me, however, my lesbianism is intrinsically bound up with my feminist politics and my campaigning against sexual violence.”

“I think it’s time for feminists to re-open the debate about heterosexuality, and to embrace the idea of political lesbianism. We live in a culture in which rape is still an everyday reality, and yet women are blamed for it, as it is viewed as an inevitable feature of heterosexual sex. Domestic violence is still a chronic problem for countless women in relationships with men. Women are told we must love our oppressors, while, as feminists, we fight to end the power afforded them as a birthright. Come on sisters, you know it makes sense. Stop pretending you think lesbianism is an exclusive members’ club, and join the ranks. I promise that you will not regret it.”

So…. Ms Lesbian by choice Bindel can make an informed choice to become a man hating pain in the posterior, but because I disagree with her, she would say that I am wrong and that I should not have the right to be a man loving lady of negotiable affection?

I love men, men of all shapes, sizes and ages. I choose to work as an escort. I don’t work on the streets, I don’t have a drug habit, I am not trafficked.

By all means ladies, do all you can to stop the horror of trafficking. Rid this country of sexual-slavery.

Combat poverty so that women need never prostitute themselves out of desperation.

BUT!!!

Not all of us are here for any of those reasons. Whether you like it or not, some of are educated ladies who love sex, love men and love what we do for a living.

I challenge these radical feminists and political lesbians to speak to women like me. Include us in their reports. Add us to their statistical data. But they will never do that. It doesn’t fit in with their crusade and if they did, they would twist our words and make assumptions based purely on their narrow minded beliefs.

The only fear of  oppression I have, does not come from the male of our species. It is the fear that these women will get their way and my career/lifestyle of choice will be made illegal. If that happens, I shall take great delight in pitching my tent on Julie’s lawn (that  – dear reader – is NOT a euphemism).

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